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Meta Has Deprecated the Messenger Apps for Mac and Windows Too
9to5mac.com/2025/10/16/meta-is-killing-off-messengers-mac-app-for-unknown-reasons/
Ryan Christoffel, reporting for 9to5Mac a month ago:
Meta has published a support doc that states its Messenger app for Mac is being discontinued. New users won’t be able to download the app at all, and existing users have about 60 more days of use before it stops working altogether. Why the change? Unfortunately, no reason has been given. But users are being pushed to the Facebook website for all their Messenger needs instead.
There’s a nearly identical support document for the native Messenger app for Windows too. They’re not even replacing them with web-app wrappers, like they just did with the Windows WhatsApp client. Just telling users to use the website.
Daring Fireball
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[Sponsor] Clerk for iOS
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OpenAI: Piloting Group Chats in ChatGPT
Google Announces Private AI Compute
WorkOS
workos.com/?utm_source=daringfireball&utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=q12025
Financial Times: ‘Apple Intensifies Succession Planning for CEO Tim Cook’
★ Meta Replaced the Native Windows WhatsApp App With a Shitty Web App
The question is, did Meta scrap its native Windows app because they don’t care that much about Windows in particular? Or because they don’t care that much about native desktop apps, period — and a crude web app wrapper is coming to Mac next?
The Information: Second-Gen iPhone Air Postponed Until Spring 2027, but Might Gain Second Camera
theinformation.com/briefings/apple-explores-adding-second-camera-next-iphone-air-boost-sales
iPhone Pockets Sold Out Within Hours
We have no idea how many of them they made, but seemingly, the price was not a problem for this product.
WSJ Report on the iPhone Air Pegs It as a ‘Flop’
wsj.com/tech/apple-iphone-air-sales-response-7f0c01f1?st=JEotAi&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
Tesla Is Working on CarPlay Support
Joy-Joy Feelings
clip.cafe/demolition-man-1993/lately-i-just-dont-feel-like-theres-anything-special-about-me/
Via a DF reader, here’s a 20-second clip from the 1993 classic* Demolition Man that exemplifies how today’s overly effusive, ever-affirming AI chatbots were presented as elements of a profoundly dystopic future by sci-fi writers just a few decades ago.
*OK, OK — cult classic.
★ OpenAI Releases GPT-5.1, Along With Renamed and New Personalities
With the other personalities, you’re choosing between flavors of bullshit. With Efficient, you’re choosing no bullshit.
Nice Web Design Work From ‘In Common With’
Toggle the “Light” switch here. It’s going to do what you hope it does. (Via Jason Fried.)
The Zip-Off-Sleeve Uniforms Issey Miyake Designed for Sony in the Early 1980s
Sony, in a 2021 Instagram post, regarding the uniforms that so infatuated Steve Jobs that he commissioned Miyake to design prototype vests for Apple employees to wear:
The history of the relationship between the two companies dates back to the 1980s. It was Issey Miyake whom Akio Morita, chairman of the board at that time, requested for a uniform design which employees take pride in with comfort year-round.
That’s the light nylon fabric uniform, created by the first collaboration of Sony and ISSEY MIYAKE.
Featuring removable sleeves, it’s perfect for summer.
The second photo shows Akio Morita trying one on. See also: this Instagram post from SPOT Closet.
What a find it would be for someone to uncover one of Miyake’s prototype vests for Apple.
I Guess They’re Down to 999 No’s for Every Yes
iPod Socks vs. iPhone Pocket
iPhone Pocket
apple.com/newsroom/2025/11/introducing-iphone-pocket-a-beautiful-way-to-wear-and-carry-iphone/
Patrick George Thinks CarPlay’s Days Are Numbered; I Doubt It
theatlantic.com/technology/2025/11/apple-carplay-general-motors/684799/
★ The Software Update UI for Upgrading to MacOS 26 Tahoe Is Needlessly Confusing
I don’t know what the *i* in the “ⓘ” button is supposed to stand for, but it isn’t *intuitive*.
Daring Fireball
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[Sponsor] WorkOS: Scalable, Secure Authentication
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Five Years of Apple Silicon Macs
‘Under the Radar’ Now Over
Marco Arment and David Smith:
In our final episode, we reflect on how indie app development has changed over the past decade. Thanks for listening, everyone!
I really liked the 30-minute format and the breadth of topics: everything from API details to broader design considerations, stats from their own businesses, and postmortems, plus all the stuff he mentioned.
I’ve never been an indie software developer, but I found the podcast extremely insightful. It’s influenced how I’ve thought about my non-indie software development career, not just as someone delivering bits that indies use, but also as a product person who writes software as a means to an end.
Mux: Video API for Developers
My thanks to Mux for sponsoring last week at DF. Modern video should be simple to ship and scale. Mux makes it easy to build live and on-demand video into anything from websites to platforms to AI workflows.
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Now, Mux is shepherding Video.js, the web’s most-trusted open-source player, and reimagining it for the modern developer experience. Future-proof your video with infrastructure trusted by Patreon, Substack, and Synthesia. Get started free, no credit card required. Use code FIREBALL for an extra $50 credit.
Trump Wants Commanders’ New D.C. Stadium Named for Him
espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46892115/trump-wants-commanders-stadium-named-him
‘Explaining, at Some Length, Techmeme’s 20 Years of Consistency’
Fred Vogelstein on Techmeme’s Enduring Popularity
crazystupidtech.com/2025/09/08/at-20-techmeme-has-never-been-hotter/