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The Every Podcast is Every's flagship show. Co-hosts Dan Shipper and Natalia Quintero talk with founders, researchers, writers, and operators about what they're building and how they use AI in their own work. The show also takes you behind the scenes at Every. We share how our team is using and exploring AI, including what we're trying, what's working, and what we're learning along the way. Formerly known as AI & I. Read more at every.to.

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The SaaS Apocalypse Is a Goldmine With Figma’s Matt Colyer

The "SaaSpocalypse"—the panic that AI will make software-as-a-service obsolete—hasn't rattled Figma’s Matt Colyer. As the company’s director of product management for developers, he's been building his own agents for two years and is buying more software services than ever. I...

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The SaaS Apocalypse Is a Goldmine With Figma’s Matt Colyer

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The "SaaSpocalypse"—the panic that AI will make software-as-a-service obsolete—hasn't rattled Figma’s Matt Colyer. As the company’s director of product management for developers, he's been building his own agents for two years and is buying more software services than ever.I...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Automated Everything With AI and Tripled Our Headcount

Dan Shipper runs one of the most AI-native companies today. Every has agents embedded in nearly every workflow—“if you swing a stick in our Slack, you're as likely to hit a human as an agent,” he says. And yet the company has grown from four people to 30 since GPT-3 came out,...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Automated Everything With AI and Tripled Our Headcount

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Dan Shipper runs one of the most AI-native companies today. Every has agents embedded in nearly every workflow—“if you swing a stick in our Slack, you're as likely to hit a human as an agent,” he says. And yet the company has grown from four people to 30 since GPT-3 came out...

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Inside Stainless: The Developer Tools Startup Anthropic Just Bought for $300 Million

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If your MCP server has dozens of tools, it's probably built wrong. You need tools that are specific and clear for each use case—but you also can't have too many. This creates an almost impossible tradeoff that most companies don't know how to solve. That's why we interviewed...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Inside Stainless: The Developer Tools Startup Anthropic Just Bought for $300 Million

If your MCP server has dozens of tools, it's probably built wrong. You need tools that are specific and clear for each use case—but you also can't have too many. This creates an almost impossible tradeoff that most companies don't know how to solve. That's why we interviewed ...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Claude Code Can Be Your Second Brain

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From time to time, we will republish episodes that you might have missed. This episode originally aired in September 2025.Noah Brier uses Claude Code as his second brain—it’s the coolest notetaking setup we’ve ever seen. He has Claude running on a server in his basement hook...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Claude Code Can Be Your Second Brain

From time to time, we will republish episodes that you might have missed. This episode originally aired in September 2025. Noah Brier uses Claude Code as his second brain—it’s the coolest notetaking setup we’ve ever seen. He has Claude running on a server in his basement hook...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The Secrets of Claude's Platform From the Team Who Built It

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In the future, you’ll be able to accomplish a goal by just giving Claude an outcome and a budget. That’s the direction Anthropic is building in with its new Managed Agents features, announced at this week’s Code with Claude developer event. The basic idea: Claude, wrapped i...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The Secrets of Claude's Platform From the Team Who Built It

In the future, you’ll be able to accomplish a goal by just giving Claude an outcome and a budget. That’s the direction Anthropic is building in with its new Managed Agents features, announced at this week’s Code with Claude developer event. The basic idea: Claude, wrapped in ...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Why We Switched From Claude Code to Codex

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In January, Dan Shipper wrote that whoever wins vibe coding wins how you work on your computer—and OpenAI had some serious catching up to do. Three months and the release of GPT-5.5 later, Codex has more than caught up. Austin Tedesco, Every's head of growth, now spends abou...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Why We Switched From Claude Code to Codex

In January, Dan Shipper wrote that whoever wins vibe coding wins how you work on your computer—and OpenAI had some serious catching up to do. Three months and the release of GPT-5.5 later, Codex has more than caught up. Austin Tedesco, Every's head of growth, now spends about...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

How Stripe Is Building for an Agent-native World

Emily Glassberg Sands leads data and AI at Stripe, which processes roughly 2% of global GDP, giving her a bird’s-eye view into how AI is upending the internet economy.  Dan Shipper talked with Glassberg Sands for Every's AI & I about what the data on Stripe's network...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

How Stripe Is Building for an Agent-native World

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Emily Glassberg Sands leads data and AI at Stripe, which processes roughly 2% of global GDP, giving her a bird’s-eye view into how AI is upending the internet economy. Dan Shipper talked with Glassberg Sands for Every's AI & I about what the data on Stripe's network actua...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The AI Sandwich: Where Humans Excel in an AI World

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Most frameworks for working with AI agents assume humans should stay in the loop at every phase. That’s the wrong approach, says Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen.Kieran is the creator of Every's AI-native engineering methodology, compound engineering. His four-...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The AI Sandwich: Where Humans Excel in an AI World

Most frameworks for working with AI agents assume humans should stay in the loop at every phase. That’s the wrong approach, says Cora general manager Kieran Klaassen. Kieran is the creator of Every's AI-native engineering methodology, compound engineering. His four-step frame...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do

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Most AI companies are racing to build bigger LLMs. Eve Bodnia thinks that's the wrong approach. Eve is the founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence, which is developing an alternative to the transformer-based models dominating the industry. Her argument: LLMs’ architecture ma...

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The AI Model Built for What LLMs Can't Do

Most AI companies are racing to build bigger LLMs. Eve Bodnia thinks that's the wrong approach. Eve is the founder and CEO of Logical Intelligence, which is developing an alternative to the transformer-based models dominating the industry. Her argument: LLMs’ architecture mak...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Gave Every Employee an AI Agent. Here's What Happened.

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While walking to the office, our COO Brandon Gell had his AI agent call him and go over his emails in his inbox one by one. When he arrived, he opened Gmail and confirmed she'd done everything he'd asked. "My jaw is on the floor," he messaged me. That was the moment Every go...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Gave Every Employee an AI Agent. Here's What Happened.

While walking to the office, our COO Brandon Gell had his AI agent call him and go over his emails in his inbox one by one. When he arrived, he opened Gmail and confirmed she'd done everything he'd asked. "My jaw is on the floor," he messaged me. That was the moment Every got...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

If SaaS Is Dead, Linear Didn't Get the Memo

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Founded in 2019, Linear is the rare company started pre-ChatGPT to have successfully reinvented itself as an agent-native business. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Karri Saarinen, cofounder and CEO of the product management tool, to discuss building ...

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If SaaS Is Dead, Linear Didn't Get the Memo

Founded in 2019, Linear is the rare company started pre-ChatGPT to have successfully reinvented itself as an agent-native business. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Karri Saarinen, cofounder and CEO of the product management tool, to discuss building a...

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How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger

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Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of determining what makes a breakout AI-native product as co-lead of Anthropic Labs. Dan Shipper talked with Krieger for Every’s AI &am...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

How to Build an Agent-native Product | Mike Krieger

Mike Krieger built one of the most consequential consumer apps of the last two decades as cofounder of Instagram. He is now at the frontier of determining what makes a breakout AI-native product as co-lead of Anthropic Labs. Dan Shipper talked with Krieger for Every’s AI &amp...

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Kate Lee on Taste, Hiring, and Running Editorial at Every

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Kate Lee has spent her career working with words—first as a literary agent, then in roles at Medium, WeWork, and Stripe. As Every’s editor in chief, she’s been the quiet force behind the newsletter for more than three years. Lately, something has shifted in Kate’s work. Afte...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

How Every Builds a Writing Team in the Age of AI

Kate Lee has spent her career working with words—first as a literary agent, then in roles at Medium, WeWork, and Stripe. As Every’s editor in chief, she’s been the quiet force behind the newsletter for more than three years.  Lately, something has shifted in Kate’s work....

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side

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Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper. It's called Proof, a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together. Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written ...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

We Made a Document Editor Where Humans and AI Work Side by Side

Every has unveiled a new product, built by CEO Dan Shipper. It's called Proof, a free, open-source, live collaborative document editor built for humans and AI agents to work in together.  Proof started as a Mac app designed to show the provenance of AI-written text—purpl...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies

Silicon Valley loves billion-dollar moonshots and AI darlings. Sam Gerstenzang and Dan Friedman are doing something different—they're starting medical spas and funeral homes. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Gerstenzang and Friedman, partners at Boulto...

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Audio • Dan Shipper

Meet the Slowest Startup Incubator in the World—Pumping Out Billion-dollar Companies

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Silicon Valley loves billion-dollar moonshots and AI darlings. Sam Gerstenzang and Dan Friedman are doing something different—they're starting medical spas and funeral homes. On this episode of AI & I, Dan Shipper sat down with Gerstenzang and Friedman, partners at Boult...