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'The Interview': Megyn Kelly Is Embracing Her Bias and Rejecting the 'Old Rules'

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The former Fox News and current YouTube host on her professional evolution, conservative media and why she endorsed Trump. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Trump 2.0: Group Chats and a New Spat

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What does the continuing fallout from the Signal text security breach tell us about President Trump’s cabinet’s approach to blame and accountability? The Times journalists Michael Barbaro, Eric Schmitt, Julian E. Barnes and Maggie Haberman sit down to make sense of the lates...

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J.F.K., the C.I.A. and the Original ‘Deep State’

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For the past three decades, the U.S. government has released documents related to the assassination of John F. Kennedy with an overriding goal of dispelling conspiracy theories. Julian E. Barnes, who covers the U.S. intelligence agencies, explains why President Trump’s motiv...

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The Editor Who Was Accidentally Texted War Plans

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This week, top Trump officials inadvertently shared secret U.S. military plans with a prominent journalist after mistakenly adding him to a group chat. The journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, who is editor in chief at The Atlantic, discusses what he was thinking as he read the mes...

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Nixon Dreamed of Breaking the Media. Trump Is Doing It.

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As President Trump set out to systematically eliminate or intimidate those who stood in his way — inspectors general, judges, law firms — the news media loomed as one of his most stubborn obstacles. Or so it seemed. Jim Rutenberg, a writer at large for The New York Times, ex...

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Trump’s Escalating War With Higher Education

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In recent weeks, the Trump administration has put the American university system on notice. It has pressed for changes, opened investigations — and in some cases withheld critical funds. Alan Blinder, who covers education in America, explains how schools are responding to th...

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The Sunday Read: ‘What I Found on the 365-Mile Trail of a Lost Folk Hero’

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Sometime in the 1850s or ’60s, at a terrible moment in U.S. history, a strange man seemed to sprout, out of nowhere, into the rocky landscape between New York City and Hartford, Conn. The word “strange” hardly captures his strangeness. He was rough and hairy, and he wandered...

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'The Interview': Dr. Lindsay Gibson on What We Owe Our 'Emotionally Immature' Parents

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The clinical psychologist explains the foundations of egocentric parental behavior, the impact it has on their children and the freedom of saying “no.” Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Why a Worrisome Economy Doesn’t Seem to Worry Trump

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As President Trump has rolled out his economic agenda, the assumption has been that he would quickly scale back his most aggressive policies once they began to scare consumers and the financial markets. But that assumption turned out to be wrong. Ben Casselman, who covers ec...

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Were the Covid Lockdowns Worth It?

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Five years ago, at the urging of federal officials, much of the United States locked down to stop the spread of Covid. Over time, the action polarized the country and changed the relationship between many Americans and their government. Michael Barbaro speaks to Stephen Mace...

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Trump’s Showdown With the Courts

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President Trump’s showdown with the courts reached a new milestone on Tuesday, when he called for a federal judge to be impeached and the chief justice of the Supreme Court publicly scolded the president in response. Luke Broadwater, who covers the White House for The Times,...

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How Trump Is Scaring Big Law Firms Into Submission

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After engaging in a campaign of retribution against his enemies within the federal government, President Trump is turning to those outside of it. Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, explains what that retribution has looked like for a single...

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The Weekend Democrats Went to War — Against Each Other

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Warning: This episode contains strong language. Over the past few days, a routine debate over government funding has exploded into an angry showdown over the Democrats’ identity in the Trump era, and whether their current leadership is right for the moment. Catie Edmondson, ...

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'The Interview': Chuck Schumer on Democrats, Antisemitism and His Shutdown Retreat

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The Senate minority leader discusses the backlash to his vote on the Republican spending bill, how he sees his role within the party and his new book. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Trump, Europe and the New World Order

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In just a few weeks, the Trump administration has taken a hard line with allies such as Mexico and Canada. Now, a trade war is on the horizon with Europe. Mark Landler, the London bureau chief of The New York Times, explains how a fracturing alliance with Europe could affect...

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Elbows Up: Canada’s Response to Trump’s Trade War

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A gloves-off trade war with the United States is uniting Canadians against their southern neighbor. Matina Stevis-Gridneff, the Canada bureau chief for The New York Times, explains how the dispute is shifting the country’s politics, culture and place on the global stage. Gue...

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The Growing Danger of Measles

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A measles outbreak continues to spread in Texas. More than 200 people have been infected. One child has died. And health experts are now concerned that low vaccination rates will make it harder to contain. Teddy Rosenbluth, a health reporter at The New York Times, explains t...

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Trump’s Bid for Greenland

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In his recent address before Congress, President Trump talked once again about his big ambitions for Greenland. He told the icebound island’s “incredible people” that he supported their right to determine their future. But he ended his message with a threat, declaring, “One ...

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Trump Takes Aim at the Department of Education

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In the coming days, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order that would follow through on one of his major campaign promises: to abolish the U.S. Department of Education. The catch is that he still needs the department to impose his vision on American schools. ...

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The Sunday Read: ‘How I Learned That the Problem in My Marriage Was Me’

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One thing I’ve learned from being married to my wife, Jess, who is a couples therapist, is how vast the distance is between the masks people show to the world and the messy realities that live behind them. Every couple knows its own drama, but we still fall prey to the illus...

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'The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.

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The pop superstar reflects on her struggles with mental health, the pressures of the music industry and why she’s returned to the sound that made her famous. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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The Cinematic Masterpiece You Won’t Get to See

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Warning: This episode contains descriptions of child abuse and domestic abuse. Over the past few years, a celebrated filmmaker has tried to unlock the mysteries of the pop icon Prince. Sasha Weiss, a deputy editor at The New York Times Magazine, says that the result is a cin...

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How Tariffs Are Shaking Up the War on Fentanyl

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For years, even as fentanyl has killed Americans at an astonishing rate, Mexico has claimed that it was doing everything possible to crack down on production of the drug. This week, President Trump began using punishing new tariffs to test that claim. Natalie Kitroeff, who i...

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Partisan Taunts and Defiant Protests: Trump’s First Speech to Congress

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In his first address to Congress on Tuesday night, President Trump took a highly partisan victory lap as Democratic lawmakers openly protested against him. Maggie Haberman, a White House correspondent for The Times, walks us through the speech, including the reactions to it ...

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DOGE Has a Math Problem

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Since President Trump took office, Elon Musk and DOGE have wielded an unprecedented level of power to help the administration cut the U.S. government, and they claim to have stopped tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. David A. Fahrenthold, an investigative repo...

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The Fallout From Zelensky and Trump’s Oval Office Meltdown

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On Friday, President Trump and Vice President JD Vance berated President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine in an explosive televised Oval Office meeting and abruptly cut short a visit that was meant to help coordinate a plan for peace. Peter Baker, chief White House corresponden...

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The Sunday Read: ‘The Cryptocurrency Scam That Turned a Small Town Against Itself’

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Jim Tucker could hardly believe what he was hearing. It sounded like fiction, a nightmare too outlandish for an unassuming town like his. It was July 2023, and Tucker was hosting a meeting of the board of Heartland Tri-State Bank, a community-owned business in a small Kansas...

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'The Interview': Gov. Maura Healey Wants Democrats to Put Up a Fight

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The Massachusetts leader, whose influence goes well beyond her state, discusses how the Democratic Party can pick its battles and rebuild its brand. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Trump 2.0: The Art of the Deal

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This week, President Trump proposed two deals that would require allies to put his needs ahead of their own. Times’ Journalists Michael Barbaro, Catie Edmonson, Maggie Haberman, and Zolan Kanno-Youngs discuss how, in both cases, Trump got what he wanted. Guest:  Catie...

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He Was America’s Highest-Ranking Military Officer. Then Came the War on D.E.I.

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During his decades-long path to become America’s highest-ranking military officer, Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr. won the crucial support of President Trump. That all changed when Mr. Brown publicly talked about a subject that is taboo in Mr. Trump’s government. Helene Cooper, wh...